As a rule, the grapes that ripen early are the kinds that keep best. A very great objection to the Isabella for wine is, that in the manufacture of Isabella wine we must add sugar. Mr. Longworth, of Cincinnati, whose name is so allied with the celebrated Catawba wine, said to Mr. Ellwanger that a sample of wine from the Delaware grape was the best wine he ever made; possessed more body, was a heavier wine and a better wine than any other that he had. From his experience with Delaware, Mr. Longworth liked it very well so far. About Cincinnati, the Delaware vine does not require manuring highly; but it requires deep culture of the soil, such culture as would produce good crops of corn. The reason for deep culture is, that if the land be with a clayey subsoil underlaid with limestone, and the clay be compact, the roots can not penetrate it, and the subsoil needs working up.

Mr. Hooker approved of deep culture. In Monroe County, high manuring is not necessary to the successful growth of grapes. Too much manuring is done, too much stimulus is applied, and the ground not deep enough worked. Mr. Barry spoke of cultivators as all being too anxious to get fruit immediately, and to have it ripen up all at once. The ground for planting the vine should in all cases be thoroughly prepared; and deep working is one of the requisites. To be sure, the roots may go down into the cold subsoil; but we are not working for one year merely, but for a whole generation. People are too impatient for fruit from their plantings; they grumble because their pear-trees do not fruit soon after setting out; and the Northern Spy apple, which is now so popular and highly esteemed, used to be blamed for its late bearing. In planting the vine, they use in Europe at first no manure. They trench the ground and plant the vines. and afterward manure upon the surface of the ground. For a permanent vineyard, the land should be subsoiled at least twenty inches deep.

While doing so, you do not necessarily throw the subsoil on the top of the other soil, but depending a good deal upon the character of the sub-soil. If the land be worked deep, the roots of the vines are not so liable to be killed by the winters From the experience which fruit-growers have had during the twelve months past, we are more positive in regard to the qualities of grapes than we were a year ago.

Mr. Maxwell, of Ontario County, spoke of Allen's Hybrid grape as a white fruit which, in a private garden in Geneva, had dune very well, and promises well.

Mr. Hoag here spoke of the Logan, a very early black grape, and said that he should consider it a very good grape. Several members called on Mr. Bissell to state as to the Logan; and he remarked that untoward circumstances had prevented his fruiting the Logan this year, bat that a quantity of the fruit was sent to him from Mr. Thomson, on 20th August; and all who ate it liked it very much.

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When at Philadelphia lately had made inquiries of gentlemen from the West; and they did not express a very favorable opinion of it.

Mr. Hoag spoke of the To Kalon, which he would pronounce a better grape than the Isabella, especially fur family use, for cultivation in gardens, etc.; and in this Mr. Hooker joined, pronouncing it a grape of fine quality, with a flavor truly delicious, and in size larger than the Isabella; the fruit when fine is very fine. The Union village grape has created quite a sensation at the East, on account of its size.

Mr. Ellwanger spoke of the Union Village from his own experience, having fruited it fur the past two years; and in flavor it is fully as good as the Isabella, while the vine is perfectly hardy, and surely is among the varieties which are promising well.

D. W. Beadle, of Canada, spoke of the Ontario grape; and some other sorts were mentioned: but the discussion consisted mainly of question and answer among the members, of which our reporter did not take accurate notes. We regret this the more as it was very interesting to those present, and would have been so to our readers.

The next meeting of the Society will be held in Rochester in January, when we hope to have an abstract of the proceedings sent to us.