Court Of Oyer And Terminer County of Philadelphia, Penn.

Samuel Campbell, P. J. Philadelphia, Penn., October 11, 1855.

Prosecutor William Matlack for the Commonwealth. A. Carpenter and R. L. Kerr, Esqs., for prisoners.

First Day- Afternoon Session. August'scull, being duly sworn, testified as follows:

Direct Examination

By Mr. Matlack:

Q. What is your name?

A. August Scull.

Q. What is your business?

A. My business is brass finishing.

Q. Where do you live?

A. At No. 277 South Street.

Q. Did you know Mr. Charles Hill in his lifetime?

A. I knew him well, sir.

Q. How well, or intimately, did you know him?

A. As intimately as a man could by having six or seven years knowledge.

Q. Where were you in the habit of meeting him?

A. Up in his office.

Q. How frequently did you see him there?

A. Well, for the last year, I saw him twice a week.

Q. Where else were you in the habit of meeting him? Did you ever meet him at his place of residence?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. About how frequently?

A. Every Sunday for a year.

Q. That was at Watts', was it?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. On South Street?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Did you ever meet him on the street?

A. Very seldom, except by appointment.

Q. About how often were you in the habit of meeting him, putting all your meetings together?

A. Two or three times a week.

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Q. And for how long a period of time?

A. For the last year.

Q. You knew him intimately and well, did you not?

A. Yes; and for six years previous, but the last year was most intimate.

Q. Did you see the body lying at the morgue in the month of May?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Was that on the same day of the discovery, or was it the day following?

A. It was the day following.

Q. At what time of the day?

A. At eleven o'clock in the morning.

Q. With whom did you go?

A. With Samuel Garrison.

Q. Did you see more than one body lying there?

A. No, sir.

Q. Whose body was it you saw lying there?

A. Mr. Charles Hill's.

Q. What satisfied you that it was his?

A. Its general appearance and contour and outline; I was satisfied it was his beyond all question, the moment I saw it; I could not be mistaken.

Q. What did you know it by-specify what it was?

A. I saw the small imperial under his lip, which I knew he always wore while alive; but the body was his, and I was so satisfied with the general appearance that I had no doubt it was the remains of Charles Hill, my friend.

Q. Were there any other peculiarities which you noticed?

A. Well, he had a peculiarity, while living, a broken finger on his right hand. I noticed his hand lying across his stomach-his right hand was lying across his stomach-and I noticed his finger.

Q. How about his hair?

A. The hair was a dark brown, and I was satisfied it was Hill's hair.

Q. And as to the shape of the forehead?

A. The shape of the forehead was his. It was unquestionably the body of Charles Hill.

Cross Examination

By Mr. Kerr:

Q. Have you taken an active part in the prosecution of the case?

A. Well, I believed I should do so.

Q. You have, have you?

A. Yes, sir; I have.

Q. You have given money for this prosecution?

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A. No, sir.

Q. You have simply given your time and attention?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. What was the size of the body you saw?

A. The size of the body?

Q. Yes, sir.

A. His height?

Q. The size; that calls for more than the height.

A. He was a large man. The Court:

You misunderstood the question; he is talking about the body as seen in the morgue. Describe that body.

A. It was a large body; it seemed to be about 6 feet long. By Mr. Kerr:

Q. I will get at it in this way. What was the size of Mr. Hill in his lifetime-how high was he?

A. About 5 feet 11.

Q. How broad shouldered; how was his chest, etc.?

A. I couldn't give you his width.

Q. What was his weight?

A. He weighed about 180 pounds.

Q. About 5 feet 11 in height?

A. Yes; he would weigh about 180 or 185.

Q. What was the size of the body at the morgue?

A. Well, I should say it was a body of about that size.

Q. Do you think you can approximate the height of a man by the body when it is reclining?

A. I think so.

Q. That is all.

The Court [addressing the State's Attorney]: Is this your last witness?

Mr. Matlack: It is the last in order to-night, and it is the hour of adjournment.

Mr. Kerr: May I ask the prosecution what branch of the case they will be likely to take up to-morrow?

Mr. Matlack: I can not tell yet. There will, however, be more on this line.

Mr. Kerr: I put the question because there are things we want here when certain witnesses are cross examined, and we do not want to keep them here.

The Court: They will keep on this line for some time, and undoubtedly give you notice when they get through. We will now take a recess until ten o'clock to-morrow morning.

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